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Wild and Free? Wild Horses and Burros | Val Barbour & Janelle Ghiorso | Oregon Wild Horse Organization | Ep. 055

Sun, 02 Apr 2023

In this episode, I interview Val Barbour and Janelle Ghiorso with Oregon Wild Horse Organization.

Topics we discuss:

  • What is so special about wild horses?
  • Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act of 1971.
  • Federal Land management agencies abdicating their responsibilities. 
  • Are wild horses a native species?
  • Conflicts between cattle interests and horses.
  • Ecological niches that horses and  burros provide.
  • The health of horses vs cows on public lands.
  • Horse/predator relationships.
  • Horse gathers, sterilization initiatives, and holding facilities. 
  • Issues with the immunocontraceptive GonaCon.
  • What keeps Oregon Wild Horse Organization going?
  • Educating the public about the wild horse issue. 


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Montana's Collaborative Nightmare | Michael Garrity | Alliance for the Wild Rockies | Ep. 054

Sat, 18 Feb 2023

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Mike’s career evolution.
  • How the Alliance for the Wild Rockies has been able to maintain its mission and integrity over the decades.
  • The origins of the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA).
  • Why the Alliance sues the Forest Service more than any other environmental group in the country.
  • Wild Montana, Greater Yellowstone Coalition and The Wilderness Society’s promotion of harmful logging projects and the destruction of wilderness quality lands as part of a culture and system of corruption.
  • What greases the skids of conservation collaboratives. 
  • The public’s overwhelming support of roadless lands in Montana. 
  • The ecological price of continuing motorized and mechanized recreation in roadless areas. 
  • The importance of quiet to native wildlife and the human animal.
  • The who, what and why of "conservation” collaboratives. 
  • The disastrous Blackfoot Clearwater Stewardship Act. 
  • The many threats from road building. 
  • The Lincoln Property Proposal.
  • The Gallatin Forest Partnership.
  • What true protections should look like under 30x30.
  • How to start turning the tide for wildlands across the Northern Rockies. 

The Alliance for the Wild Rockies
The good, bad, and ugly of Tester’s Blackfoot-Clearwater Stewardship Act
TWS's Roadless Report
The Bader Report (Gallatin Forest Partnership)

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Capitalism's Grip on the Wilderness Movement | Dr. Joseph Scalia III | Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance | Ep. 053

Mon, 16 Jan 2023

In this episode, I interview Dr. Joseph Scalia III, practicing psychoanalyst in Livingston, Montana and frequent guest of the program. Dr. Scalia is a board member with the Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance and long-time wilderness activist in Southwest Montana.

Topics we cover:  Societal change as an important component of the wilderness movement, Joe’s career as a psychoanalyst, the perversion of truth, Felix Guattari’s The Three Ecologies, National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) shortcoming, the dark obscene underbelly of public lands politics and recreation, neoliberalism and how it drives mainstream conservation, psychological symptomology of capitalism, treating society as the patient, mechanisms of societal change, what drives the Big Greens, confronting painful truths and the unwillingness of many in the grassroots environmental movement to confront reality and advocate for radical change. 

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Is Wilderness Still Relevant? | Erik Molvar | Western Watersheds Project | Ep. 052

Sat, 17 Dec 2022

In this episode, I speak with Erik Molvar, executive director of Western Watersheds Project. We discuss his guidebook writing, the state of our public lands system, the work of Western Watersheds Project, the influence of domestic livestock on Wilderness and public lands, attitudes and historical context of wilderness, Native American omission from the Wilderness Act, the relevancy and importance of the wilderness designation, how to manage public lands for the benefit of ecosystems and the human, collaborative conservation and challenging the dominant culture of colonialism and dominion over nature. 

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Hundreds of New National Parks | Michael Kellett | Restore the North Woods | Wilderness 30x30 | Ep. 051

Sat, 10 Apr 2021

In this episode, I interview Michael Kellett, Executive Director of Restore the North Woods, a non-profit environmental group working in Maine with the mission of creating a new national park near Mount Katahdin. We talk about his early years, his time spent working for The Wilderness Society on the east coast, the founding and vision of Restore, the story about the creation of the first national monument in Maine, the history and culture of New England landscapes and its working forests (i.e. logging), a vision for hundreds of new national parks across the country and how new national parks and wilderness areas should fit within the 30x30 Campaign. 

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