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Bonus: SchadenFriday: Spewing Bile and Susie Wiles

Fri, 19 Dec 2025
Is the president falling into the very trap that launched him back into office by telling people the economy is actually great when they say it isn’t? Is this partially ballroom’d White House as chaotic as its detractors—and Trump’s chief of staff—say it is? 

Guest: Ben Jacobs, political reporter based in Washingon.

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TBD | Data Center Space Race

Fri, 19 Dec 2025
While the A.I. boom has created a data center boom, rich guys are turning their computing dreams to the skies. With its impending IPO, SpaceX stands to lead the extraterrestrial data center boom. Will it work out for Elon and company? 

Guest: Eric Berger, space reporter at Ars Technica

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Why Antisemitism Is Everywhere

Thu, 18 Dec 2025
It’s not that antisemitism ever went away, but it’s still jarring to watch people spread its oldest and most vile tropes on social media in a way that would’ve been unthinkable ten years ago.

Guest:  Isaac Saul, politics reporter in Bucks County, Penn., author of the Tangle newsletter

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The Unaffordable Economy

Wed, 17 Dec 2025
Even though the economy looks to be slowing down, prices are still rising. And while presidents don’t have a ton of control over the economy, there is something in Donald Trump’s power that could help reverse these trends. 

Guest: Catherine Rampell, economics editor at The Bulwark and anchor at MS NOW.

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Candace Owens at a Turning Point

Tue, 16 Dec 2025
In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s murder, the right-wing commentator Candace Owens didn’t simply blame liberals. Her antisemetic conspiracy theories have become so toxic that Kirk’s widow has called for a private summit this week.

Guest: Will Sommer, senior reporter for The Bulwark.

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