Relationship Coaching School Podcast

What does it mean to follow your deepest calling? How do you get clear on what actually matters and act on it today? Jayson sits down with executive coach John O’Connor to explore what it takes to create real transformation.

They get into symbolic sovereignty, creating a clear vision, and how deep callings can emerge from deep traumas. Jayson shares what it means to earn your black belt in relationships, they discuss why music is a powerful metaphor for life, and the one skill every facilitator needs. They also talk about entanglement, and having a shared vision with your partner. Stick around for grounded insights on leadership, connection, and showing up fully to the work only you can do.
John O’Connor is an executive coach and facilitator living in Boulder, Colorado. For more than a decade, John has coached the top CEOs and leaders in hedge funds, startups, and Fortune 500 companies. John embodies a masterful level of skill to create radical transformation. His coaching path emerged out of 17 years as a massage therapist, after working through tens of thousands of bodies, he developed a deep connection and curiosity to the unconscious mind, learning how to facilitate behavioral, emotional and mental change at the deepest level. John was a co-lead facilitator at the first two Open Source Retreats that helped lay the foundation for the EVRYMAN movement. He is also a certified NLP and hypnosis trainer, a certified master coach, creator of The Access Method, and author of the upcoming book From Ordinary to Extraordinary.

Timestamps:

• 1:23 - What is your deepest calling?
• 3:49 - Stepping out of time
• 8:54 - Creating a clear vision
• 10:43 - What are the three most important things you need to do today?
• 13:19 - Symbolic sovereignty
• 32:24 - How to get your black belt in relationships
• 37:36 - Music as a metaphor for relationships
• 45:48 - Having a shared vision
• 52:42 - Deep callings can emerge from deep traumas
• 58:56 - Dealing with entanglement
• 1:04:00 - An important skill for facilitators and coaches

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Jayson breaks down the problems with one common strategy—people-pleasing and how it relates to the core inner conflict. What are the childhood roots of people-pleasing? Why do people-pleasers become resentful? Why do integrated individuals make better coaches and therapists? Tune in to this insightful episode to learn how to stop betraying yourself in the context of your relationship.

Timestamps:

• 1:37 - Client example
• 5:43 - The childhood roots of people-pleasing
• 12:04 - Betraying yourself to fit in
• 14:46 - Why people-pleasers become resentful
• 18:23 - Why integrated people make better coaches and therapists

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Jayson sits down with Duane Mullner to talk about the role of the therapist or coach. Why is the here and now so important? Can clients help their coaches and therapists? How should you prepare for a session? What should you do with a client who isn’t making progress? How can you help clients who are stuck in victimhood? Don’t miss this chance to hear Duane Mullner share the wisdom he has accumulated over his long career.

Timestamps:

• 6:44 - What is the role of the therapist/coach
• 15:30 - What’s going on between therapist and client?
• 20:31 - Why is the here and now so important?
• 27:39 - Don’t make resistance wrong
• 34:35 - How clients help coaches and therapists
• 41:46 - How to prepare for a session
• 44:51 - Making progress with clients
• 54:18 - How to help people who are in their victimhood
• 1:07:00 - Should you trust clients to treat you about their problems?

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Jayson breaks down how to coach yourself using AI and shares a variety of example prompts. Can AI offer constructive criticism? What can it do with astrology and Gene Keys? Can it give you a tough-love wake-up call? Stick around until the end to learn how you can use AI to get the most out of your therapy sessions!

Timestamps:

• 2:40 - Ways to use AI as a client
• 4:52 - Using AI for constructive criticism
• 7:50 - Astrology
• 10:27 - Tough love
• 13:36 - Getting the most out of therapy

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Jayson discusses the role of AI in the therapy and coaching space. Will AI replace therapists and coaches? Can it ever be better than a real coach or therapist? What are the downsides of using AI to coach yourself? Stay tuned until the end of the episode to find out how you can thrive—rather than just survive—as a coach or therapist in the age of AI.

Timestamps:

• 5:42 - Price point
• 9:10 - Who will lose their jobs?
• 12:53 - What AI can't replace
• 19:24 - AI and intuition
• 23:47 - How should coaches and therapists adapt to AI?

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