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Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down the emerging design giant Figma Inc. (ticker: FIG) and discuss whether the company can expand further into other enterprise design software verticals against Adobe.
In this episode, you’ll learn how Figma burst onto the scene after three long years of toiling in the background, why Figma’s stock has crash 80% since IPO, and whether Figma’s stock is attractively priced at current levels.



IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00:00 - Intro
00:09:01 - Why the design process used to be so messy and disjointed before Figma came along
00:11:08 - How Figma was born out of a partnership at Brown University
00:28:53 - How Figma is turning from a single-hit product into a more diversified platform
00:36:51 - What Figma is doing to redefine the future of AI in collaborative design
00:52:06 - What to make of Figma’s young CEO, Dylan Field
00:54:32 - Why Figma crashed after its IPO
00:56:14 - How IPO-related stock-based-comp accounting distorted Figma’s 2024 & 2025 financials
01:03:54 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add FIG to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio

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Shawn’s meditation app made via Figma.

Figma’s CEO on the future of design.

Figma’s CEO on the In Good Company podcast.

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Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a deep dive into Duolingo — the leading language learning app with over 50 million daily active users and the chaotic green owl as a mascot. Since its IPO in 2021, Duolingo has expanded beyond language instruction to include math, music, and chess. The vision is to create the world's largest learning platform. 

Some people believe Duolingo will succeed and become a company worth hundreds of billions of dollars, dominating one of the largest and most profitable markets – education. However, the stock has fallen 80% from its highs, as the market views Duolingo as a potential target for AI disruption.



IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00:00 - Intro

00:05:51 - About the mission of the CEO and Founder, Luis von Ahn

00:08:29 - Why Duolingo was founded

00:10:34 - Why Duolingo works better than other apps

00:17:16 - About Duolingo's user numbers and growth

00:37:55 - Why the stock dropped 80%

00:40:55 - Whether AI is a threat or an opportunity

00:53:47 - What the bull and bear cases look like

01:18:11 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add Duolingo to the portfolio



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Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down the ride-sharing giant Lyft Inc. (ticker: LYFT) and discuss whether the company can regain ground against Uber, or whether it’s always destined to be #2. While Lyft has clawed back some market share, finally attained profitability, and is now growing internationally, Shawn finds Lyft most interesting as a potential acquisition target for a company like DoorDash, Amazon, or Alphabet.



IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00:00 - Intro

00:02:18 - Why Lyft could be such an interesting acquisition target

00:11:58 - How the company has actually managed to regain market share versus Uber

00:13:36 - What Lyft did to achieve operating profitability for the first time this year

00:24:24 - How Zimbabwe became the inspiration for Lyft

00:31:30 - How Lyft’s co-founders used viral marketing to gain traction

00:32:05 - Why scrappiness is in Lyft’s DNA

00:33:14 - Why Lyft made sure to IPO before Uber

01:16:05 - How to think about modeling LYFT’s intrinsic value

01:19:00 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add LYFT to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio



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Acquired podcast’s coverage of the Lyft IPO.


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Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a deep dive into Constellation Software — the popular Canadian compounder that has turned buying “boring” vertical market software into one of the most effective capital-allocation machines in public markets.


IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:33 - How Mark Leonard founded Constellation
00:08:43 - What principles drive Mark Leonard
00:15:23 - What Constellation looks for in acquisition targets
00:19:20 - About the metrics that matter to Constellation
00:21:15 - How Constellation is structured and incentivized
00:46:26 - Whether AI is a threat or chance
01:04:50 - Why Constellation considers investing outside of VMS
01:08:50 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add Constellation to the portfolio



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Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Netflix (ticker: NFLX) and discuss whether the company has finally won the streaming wars. While growth looked challenged back in 2022, Netflix has proven resilient in the face of competition and economic slowdowns by leaning into advertising and password crackdowns, with much room left to run internationally.



IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00:00 - Intro

00:13:36 - How Netflix pivoted from mailing DVDs to streaming

00:14:48 - How Netflix killed Blockbuster

00:24:20 - Why the business works so well with two co-CEOs

00:46:25 - How being a first-mover got Netflix through the cash burn phase before any competition arose

00:48:29 - What Netflix is doing to sustain growth into the future

00:54:00 - What makes the company’s culture so legendary

01:04:18 - Why Netflix’s app just “works” better than the competition

01:18:03 - How to think about modeling NFLX’s intrinsic value

01:22:28 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add NFLX to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio



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