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Episode 221: High-Output Heart Failure

Tue, 24 Mar 2026




We discuss the diagnosis and treatment of one of EM's paradoxes: High-Output Heart Failure.


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Nicolas Gonzalez, MD

Brian Gilberti, MD






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1. Core Definition & Hemodynamic Profile




  • Clinical Paradox: Congestive symptoms (pulmonary edema, JVD, peripheral edema) in the setting of a hyperdynamic, supranormal cardiac function.




  • Hemodynamic Criteria:




    • Cardiac Index (CI): .




    • Cardiac Output (CO): .




    • Systemic Vascular Resistance (SVR): Pathologically low (vasodilated or shunted state).






  • The “Warm” Phenotype: Unlike standard HFrEF/HFpEF (often “Cold and Wet”), HOHF presents as “Warm and Wet” due to low SVR and bounding pulses.




2. Pathophysiology: The Hemodynamic Paradox




  • Primary Insult: Decreased SVR (either via peripheral vasodilation or arteriovenous shunting).




  • Effective Arterial Blood Volume: Paradoxically low despite high total CO.




  • Neurohormonal Cascade:




    • Activation of Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone System (RAAS).




    • Increased Sympathetic Nervous System tone.




    • Increased Antidiuretic Hormone (ADH) secretion.






  • Resultant State: Avid renal salt and water retention leading to massive plasma volume expansion.




  • Cardiac Response: Chronic volume overload eccentric remodeling chamber dilation eventual secondary myocardial failure/dilated cardiomyopathy.






3. Differential Diagnosis: Etiological “Buckets”


Category A: Increased Metabolic Demand (Systemic)




  • Hyperthyroidism/Thyrotoxicosis:




    • Direct T3 effects: increased chronotropy/inotropy.




    • Indirect effects: metabolic byproduct accumulation causing peripheral vasodilation.






  • Myeloproliferative Disorders:




    • High cell turnover and increased oxygen consumption drive compensatory CO increase.






  • Sepsis (Hyperdynamic Phase):




    • Cytokine-mediated global vasodilation.




    • Note: Often transient; may transition to sepsis-induced myocardial depression.






Category B: Peripheral Vascular Effects (Shunting/Vasodilation)




  • Arteriovenous Fistulas (AVF) / Malformations (AVM):




    • Most Common Cause: Iatrogenic AVF for Hemodialysis (ESRD population).




    • Bypasses high-resistance capillary beds, dumping arterial blood directly into venous circulation.






  • Chronic Liver Disease (Cirrhosis):




    • Formation of “spider angiomata” and internal AV shunts.




    • Impaired clearance of endogenous vasodilators (e.g., Nitric Oxide).






  • Thiamine Deficiency (Wet Beriberi):




    • Accumulation of pyruvate/lactate systemic vasodilation.




    • Histopathology: Vacuolation, myofiber hypertrophy, and interstitial edema.






  • Chronic Lung Disease:




    • Hypoxia/Hypercapnia-driven systemic vasodilation.




    • Concomitant pulmonary HTN (RV remodeling) but preserved/high LV output.






  • Others: Paget’s disease of bone (extensive micro-shunting), Carcinoid syndrome, Mitochondrial diseases, Acromegaly, Erythroderma.






4. Special Focus: Hemodialysis Access-Induced HOHF


Physiologic Phases of AVF Creation:




  1. Acute Phase:




    1. Immediate SVR.




    2. Stroke volume and Heart Rate (SNS-mediated).




    3. Endothelial shear stress Nitric Oxide release further arterial dilation.






  2. Subacute Phase (Days to 2 Weeks):




    1. RAAS-driven volume expansion.




    2. Right Atrial, Pulmonary Artery, and LV End-Diastolic Pressures (LVEDP).




    3. Natriuretic peptide surge (BNP/ANP) peaks around Day 10.






  3. Chronic Phase (Weeks to Months):




    1. Adaptive hypertrophy.




    2. Decompensation occurs when dilation exceeds contractility limits.








5. Point-of-Care Physical Exam & Maneuvers




  • Nicoladoni-Branham Sign (Pathognomonic for Shunt-driven HOHF):




    • Maneuver: Manually compress the AVF (or inflate cuff to above SBP) for 30 seconds.




    • Positive Result: Reflexive bradycardia or a transient rise in systemic BP.




    • Significance: Confirms the shunt is a major contributor to the cardiac workload.






  • Peripheral Pulse Assessment:




    • Water Hammer Pulses: Rapid upstroke and collapse.




    • Quincke’s Pulse: Visible capillary pulsations in the nail beds.




    • Traube’s Sign: “Pistol-shot” sounds auscultated over the femoral arteries.






  • Volume Status: Rales, S3 gallop, peripheral edema (standard HF signs).






6. Diagnostic Workup (Technical Targets)


POCUS / Echocardiography:




  • Left Ventricle: Hyperdynamic function; EF typically .




  • Left Atrium: Significant dilation (Left Atrial Volume Index ; Case study noted ).




  • IVC: Plethoric with minimal respiratory variation.




  • Doppler: High flow velocities across the AV access if applicable.




Laboratory Evaluation:




  • BNP/NT-proBNP: Often markedly elevated (e.g., in severe cases), though mean values in literature hover around .




  • Hematology: CBC to evaluate for severe anemia (trigger for HOHF if ) or myeloproliferative markers.




  • Endocrine/Metabolic: TSH (Thyrotoxicosis), Serum Thiamine (Beriberi), LFTs (Cirrhosis).






7. Management Strategy: A Stepwise Approach


Phase 1: Immediate Stabilization (Volume Offloading)




  • Diuresis: Aggressive IV loop diuretics (Bumetanide/Furosemide).




  • Ultrafiltration: Preferred in ESRD patients failing to respond to dialysis or with refractory congestion.




  • Vasodilator Caution: Avoid aggressive Nitroglycerin or ACE-inhibitors initially.




    • Rationale: Baseline SVR is already pathologically low; further reduction may precipitate profound hypotension/circulatory collapse.






Phase 2: Targeted Therapy (Etiology Specific)




  • Anemia: Transfuse to goal to reduce demand.




  • Beriberi: High-dose IV Thiamine ().




  • Thyrotoxicosis: Beta-blockers (Propranolol) + Antithyroid meds (PTU/Methimazole).




Phase 3: Surgical/Interventional Salvage (Refractory AVF Cases)




  1. Closure of Accessory Sites: If multiple fistulas exist, close the non-dominant/unused sites.




  2. Flow Reduction (Banding): Surgical narrowing of the fistula to target flow .




  3. RUDI Procedure: Revision Using Distal Inflow (moving inflow to a smaller, more distal artery).




  4. Ligation: Complete closure of the AVF.




    • Note: Requires bridge to Tunneled Dialysis Catheter or AV graft (higher resistance than fistulas).








8. Key Clinical Takeaways




  • The “Normal EF” Trap: Do not be reassured by an EF of ; in the context of pulmonary edema and high CO, this is potentially HOHF.




  • Pulse Pressure: Look for a wide pulse pressure (e.g., ) as a marker of low SVR.




  • ESRD Logic: If an ESRD patient is “wet” immediately after HD, the problem is likely flow (AVF), not just fluid.







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Episode 220: Post-ROSC Care

Tue, 03 Mar 2026




We explore how to refine and optimize care in the vital minutes following ROSC.


Hosts:

Jonathan Elmer, MD, MS

Brian Gilberti, MD






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  • Credit: 12.5 AMA PRA Category 1 Credits™

  • Curriculum: Comprehensive coverage of Core Emergency Medicine,  with 12 modules spanning from Critical Care to Pediatrics.

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    • $250 for Non-NYU Learners




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I. Phase 1: Stabilization (Minutes 0–10)


The “Rearrest” Window & Pathophysiology



  • High-Risk Period: Rearrest rates reach 30% within the first minutes post-ROSC.


  • Shock Incidence: Two-thirds of patients develop profound hypotension/shock as initial resuscitative efforts subside.


  • Catecholamine Washout: Super-physiologic “code-dose” epinephrine (1mg IV) typically wears off within ~3 minutes post-ROSC, leading to predictable hemodynamic collapse.


  • Secondary Injuries: Evaluate for “CPR-induced trauma” (blunt thoracic trauma, rib fractures, pneumothorax, liver/splenic lacerations).



Immediate Resuscitative Actions



  • Vascular Access:

    • Transition rapidly from IO to reliable IV access within 1–2 minutes.


    • Prioritize Intraosseous (IO) placement within 5 minutes if IV attempts fail; intra-arrest data suggests no significant difference in early outcomes.




  • Vasoactive “Bridge”:

    • Maintain a “bolus-dose” pressor at the bedside for immediate push-dose titration.


    • Options: Phenylephrine, dilute Epinephrine, or dilute Norepinephrine (titrated to effect rather than rigid dosing).




  • Physician-Specific Task: Arterial Line:

    • Goal: Placement within 5 minutes of ROSC.


    • Preferred Site: Femoral (by landmarks/blind if necessary) for speed; should be a <2-minute procedure.


    • Utility: Immediate detection of rearrest and beat-to-beat titration of vasopressors.





II. Phase 2: Diagnostic Workup (Minutes 10–40)


Etiology Epidemiology



  • ACS Shift: Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS) is the cause in only 6–10% of resuscitated survivors (lower than historical estimates).


  • Common Etiologies:

  • Respiratory: COPD, pneumonia, mucus plugging.



    • Cardiac: Arrhythmia (cardiomyopathy/scar), RV failure (PE), or LV failure.


    • Neurological: Intracranial hemorrhage (SAH/ICH), status epilepticus (4–5%).


    • Metabolic: Dialysis-related disarray/hyperkalemia.


    • Toxicology: Overdose accounts for ~10% of cases in urban centers.





The “Broad Net” Strategy



  • “Rainbow Labs”: Comprehensive panel including toxicology and serial biomarkers.


  • Pan-Scan Protocol:

    • Components: CT/CTA Head/Neck, Contrast CT Chest/Abdomen/Pelvis.


    • Diagnostic Yield: 50% for clinically significant findings (causes or consequences of arrest).


    • Contrast Risk: Negligible (1–2% increase in AKI risk) compared to the high diagnostic utility.




  • Avoid Anchoring: Do not assume ischemic EKG changes are the cause; they are frequently a consequence of the global arrest-induced ischemia.



III. Hemodynamic & Respiratory Targets


Mean Arterial Pressure (MAP)



  • Autoregulation Shift: In acute brain injury/post-arrest, the lower limit of cerebral autoregulation shifts right, often requiring MAPs of 110–120 mmHg for adequate perfusion.

  • Clinical Target: Aim for MAP >80 mmHg.


  • The BOX Trial Nuance: While the BOX trial showed no difference between MAP 63 vs. 77, its cohort (Denmark) had exceptionally high survival rates (70% back to work) and short response times, which may not generalize to North American populations with lower shockable rhythm incidence.


  • Permissive Hypertension: If the patient is “self-driving” to higher pressures, do not aggressively lower them, as this may be a physiologic demand for cerebral blood flow.



Ventilation and Oxygenation



  • PaCO2 Management:

    • Target: High-normal to slightly hypercarbic (45–55 mmHg).


    • Rationale: Avoid accidental hyperventilation (PaCO2 <30), which can cut cerebral blood flow by 50%.




  • PaO2 Management: Maintain normoxia; avoid extreme hyperoxia, though trial data (BOX trial) suggests small variances (70 vs 90 mmHg) are likely neutral.



IV. Neurological Prognostication & Communication


The “Stunned” Brain



  • Anoxic Depolarization: Occurs within ~2 minutes of pulselessness as ATP-dependent ion pumps fail.


  • Clinical Pitfall: Early neurological exams (absent pupils, no motor response) are unreliable in the first hours as they reflect global neuronal “stunning” rather than definitive permanent injury.


  • Time Horizon: Meaningful recovery is measured in days/weeks, not minutes/hours.



Family Engagement



  • Presence: Bring family to the bedside immediately, including during procedures or continued resuscitation.


  • Psychological Impact: Significantly reduces PTSD, anxiety, and depression in survivors’ families.


  • Prognostic Honesty: Explicitly state “I don’t know” regarding etiology and outcome.


  • Framing: Define “No News” as the best possible early outcome (preventing rearrest and stabilization).





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Episode 219: Meningitis 2.0

Tue, 03 Feb 2026




We review diagnosing and managing bacterial meningitis in the ED.


Hosts:

Sarah Fetterolf, MD

Avir Mitra, MD






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  • Credit: 12.5 AMA PRA Category 1 Credits™

  • Curriculum: Comprehensive coverage of Core Emergency Medicine,  with 12 modules spanning from Critical Care to Pediatrics.

  • Cost:

    • Free for NYU Learners

    • $250 for Non-NYU Learners




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Patient Presentation & Workup



  • Patient: 36-year-old male, currently shelter-domiciled, presenting with 3 weeks of generalized weakness, fevers, weight loss, and headaches.

  • Vitals (Initial): BP 147/98, HR 150s, Temp 100.2°F, RR 18, O2 99% RA.

  • Clinical Evolution: Initial assessment noted cachexia and a large ventral hernia. Following initial workup, the patient became acutely altered (A&O x0) and febrile to 102.9°F.

  • Physical Exam Findings:

    • Brudzinski Sign: Positive (knees flexed upward upon passive neck flexion).

    • Kernig Sign: Discussed as highly specific (resistance/pain during knee extension with hip flexed at 90°).

    • Meningeal Triad: Fever, nuchal rigidity, and AMS (present in 40% of cases; 95% of patients have at least two of the four cardinal symptoms including headache).



  • Imaging:

    • Chest X-ray: Scattered opacities (pneumonia) and a small pneumothorax.

    • CT Abdomen/Pelvis: Confirmed asplenia (secondary to 2011 GSW/exploratory laparotomy).

    • Head CT: Ventricle enlargement concerning for obstructive hydrocephalus and diffuse sulcal effacement.






CSF Analysis & Microbiology



  • Bacterial Meningitis

    • Opening Pressure: Elevated (Normal is mm ).

    • Color: Cloudy or turbid.

    • Gram Stain: Positive in 60%–80% of cases before antibiotics; drops to 7%–41% after antibiotics.

    • Cell Count: Very high ( WBC); dominated by neutrophils ( PMN).

    • Glucose: Low ( mg/dL); CSF/blood glucose ratio is .

    • Protein: High ( mg/dL).

    • Cytology: Negative.



  • Viral Meningitis

    • Opening Pressure: Normal.

    • Color: Clear or bloody.

    • Gram Stain: Negative.

    • Cell Count: Slightly elevated ( WBC); dominated by lymphocytes ( PMN).

    • Glucose: Normal.

    • Protein: Moderately elevated ( mg/dL).

    • Cytology: Negative.



  • Fungal Meningitis

    • Opening Pressure: Normal to elevated.

    • Color: Clear or cloudy.

    • Gram Stain: Negative.

    • Cell Count: Elevated ( WBC).

    • Glucose: Normal to slightly low.

    • Protein: High ( mg/dL).

    • Cytology: Negative.



  • Neoplastic (Cancer-related) Meningitis

    • Opening Pressure: Normal.

    • Color: Clear or cloudy.

    • Gram Stain: Negative.

    • Cell Count: Elevated ( WBC).

    • Glucose: Normal to slightly low.

    • Protein: High ( mg/dL).

    • Cytology: Positive (this is the key differentiator).






Management Protocol



  • Immediate Treatment: Early administration of antibiotics/antivirals is critical to reduce mortality.

    • Antibiotics: Ceftriaxone 2g IV q12h + Vancomycin (or Rifampin in cephalosporin-resistant areas).

    • Listeria Coverage: Add Ampicillin for patients > 50 years old.

    • Antivirals: Acyclovir 10 mg/kg q8h.

    • Steroids: Dexamethasone 10 mg IV q6h for 4 days (proven to reduce mortality and improve outcomes).



  • Surgical Intervention: Neurosurgery performed an emergent EVD in the ED to relieve pressure from obstructive hydrocephalus.

  • Post-Exposure Prophylaxis: Indicated only for N. meningitidis (not S. pneumoniae) for contacts < 24 hours from diagnosis.

    • Regimens: Rifampin for 2 days, single-dose Ciprofloxacin, or IM Ceftriaxone (if pregnant).






Stats & Clinical Pearls: Austrian Syndrome



  • The Triad: Concurrent pneumonia, endocarditis, and meningitis caused by Streptococcus pneumoniae.

  • Risk Factors: Asplenia (due to the spleen’s role in filtering encapsulated bacteria), alcohol use disorder, and immunosuppression.

  • Mortality Rate: Extremely high at 28%; mortality is highest when there is CNS involvement.

  • Incidence: Worldwide, S. pneumoniae is the leading cause of bacterial meningitis, accounting for 3,000–6,000 cases annually.





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Episode 218: Sympathetic Crashing Acute Pulmonary Edema (SCAPE)

Sat, 17 Jan 2026




We discuss the diagnosis and management of SCAPE in the ED.


Hosts:

Naz Sarpoulaki, MD, MPH

Brian Gilberti, MD






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  • Credit: 12.5 AMA PRA Category 1 Credits™

  • Curriculum: Comprehensive coverage of Core Emergency Medicine,  with 12 modules spanning from Critical Care to Pediatrics.

  • Cost:

    • Free for NYU Learners

    • $250 for Non-NYU Learners




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The Clinical Case



  • Presentation: 60-year-old male with a history of HTN and asthma.

  • EMS Findings: Severe respiratory distress, SpO₂ in the 60s on NRB, HR 120, BP 230/180.

  • Exam: Diaphoretic, diffuse crackles, warm extremities, pitting edema, and significant fatigue/work of breathing.

  • Pre-hospital meds: NRB, Duonebs, Dexamethasone, and IM Epinephrine (under the assumption of severe asthma/anaphylaxis).


Differential Diagnosis for the Hypoxic/Tachypneic Patient



  • Pulmonary: Asthma/COPD, Pneumonia, ARDS, PE, Pneumothorax, Pulmonary Edema, ILD, Anaphylaxis.

  • Cardiac: CHF, ACS, Tamponade.

  • Systemic: Anemia, Acidosis.

  • Neuro: Neuromuscular weakness.


What is SCAPE?


Sympathetic Crashing Acute Pulmonary Edema (SCAPE) is characterized by a sudden, massive sympathetic surge leading to intense vasoconstriction and a precipitous rise in afterload.



  • Pathophysiology: Unlike HFrEF, these patients are often euvolemic or even hypovolemic. The primary issue is fluid maldistribution (fluid shifting from the vasculature into the lungs) due to extreme afterload.


Bedside Diagnosis: POCUS vs. CXR


POCUS is the gold standard for rapid bedside diagnosis.



  • Lung Ultrasound: Look for diffuse B-lines (≥3 in ≥2 bilateral zones).

  • Cardiac: Assess LV function and check for pericardial effusion.

  • Why not CXR? A meta-analysis shows LUS has a sensitivity of ~88% and specificity of ~90%, whereas CXR sensitivity is only ~73%. Importantly, up to 20% of patients with decompensated HF will have a normal CXR.


Management Strategy


1. NIPPV (CPAP or BiPAP)


Start NIPPV immediately to reduce preload/afterload and recruit alveoli.



  • Settings: CPAP 5–8 cm H₂O or BiPAP 10/5 cm H₂O. Escalate EPAP quickly but keep pressures to avoid gastric insufflation.

  • Evidence: NIPPV reduces mortality (NNT 17) and intubation rates (NNT 13).


2. High-Dose Nitroglycerin


The goal is to drop SBP to < 140–160 mmHg within minutes.



  • No IV Access: 3–5 SL tabs (0.4 mg each) simultaneously.

  • IV Bolus: 500–1000 mcg over 2 minutes.

  • IV Infusion: Start at 100–200 mcg/min; titrate up rapidly (doses > 800 mcg/min may be required).

  • Safety: ACEP policy supports high-dose NTG as both safe and effective for hypertensive HF. Use a dedicated line/short tubing to prevent adsorption issues.


3. Refractory Hypertension


If SBP remains > 160 mmHg despite NIPPV and aggressive NTG, add a second vasodilator:



  • Clevidipine: Ultra-short-acting calcium channel blocker (titratable and rapid).

  • Nicardipine: Effective alternative for rapid BP control.

  • Enalaprilat: Consider if the above are unavailable.


Troubleshooting & Pitfalls


The “Mask Intolerant” Patient


Hypoxia is the primary driver of agitation. NIPPV is the best sedative. * Pharmacology: If needed, use small doses of benzodiazepines (Midazolam 0.5–1 mg IV).



  • AVOID Morphine: Data suggests higher rates of adverse events, invasive ventilation, and mortality. A 2022 RCT was halted early due to harm in the morphine arm (43% adverse events vs. 18% with midazolam).


The Role of Diuretics


In SCAPE, diuretics are not first-line.



  • The problem is redistribution, not volume excess. Diuretics will not help in the first 15–30 minutes and may worsen kidney function in a (relatively) hypovolemic patient.

  • Delay Diuretics until the patient is stabilized and clear systemic volume overload (edema, weight gain) is confirmed.


Disposition



  • Admission: Typically requires CCU/ICU for ongoing NIPPV and titration of vasoactive infusions.

  • Weaning: As BP normalizes and work of breathing improves, infusions and NIPPV can be gradually tapered.


Take-Home Points



  1. Recognize SCAPE: Hyperacute dyspnea + severe HTN. Trust your POCUS (B-lines) over a “clear” CXR.

  2. NIPPV Immediately: Don’t wait. It saves lives and prevents tubes.

  3. High-Dose NTG: Use boluses to “catch up” to the sympathetic surge. Don’t fear the dose.

  4. Avoid Morphine: Use small doses of benzos if the patient is struggling with the mask.

  5. Lasix Later: Prioritize afterload reduction over diuresis in the hyperacute phase.





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Episode 217: Prehospital Blood Transfusion

Thu, 01 Jan 2026




We discuss the shift to prehospital blood to treat shock sooner.


Hosts:

Nichole Bosson, MD, MPH, FACEP

Avir Mitra, MD






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  • Credit: 12.5 AMA PRA Category 1 Credits™

  • Curriculum: Comprehensive coverage of Core Emergency Medicine,  with 12 modules spanning from Critical Care to Pediatrics.

  • Cost:

    • Free for NYU Learners

    • $250 for Non-NYU Learners




Click Here to Register and Begin Module 1




What is prehospital blood transfusion




  • Administration of blood products in the field prior to hospital arrival




  • Aimed at patients in hemorrhagic shock






Why this matters




  • Traditional US prehospital resuscitation relied on crystalloid




  • ED and trauma care now prioritize early blood




  • Hemorrhage occurs before hospital arrival




  • Delays to definitive hemorrhage control are common




  • Earlier blood may improve survival






Supporting rationale




  • ATLS and trauma paradigms emphasize blood over fluid




  • National organizations support prehospital blood when feasible




  • EMS already manages high risk, time sensitive interventions






Evidence overview




  • Data are mixed and evolving




    • COMBAT: no benefit




    • PAMPer: mortality benefit




    • RePHILL: no clear benefit






  • Signal toward benefit when transport time exceeds ~20 minutes




  • Urban systems still experience long delays due to traffic and geography




  • LA County median time to in hospital transfusion ~35 minutes






LA County program




  • ~2 years of planning before launch




  • Pilot began April 1




  • Partnerships:




    • LA County Fire




    • Compton Fire




    • Local trauma centers




    • San Diego Blood Bank






  • 14 units of blood circulating in the field




  • Blood rotated back 14 days before expiration




  • Ultimately used at Harbor UCLA




  • Continuous temperature and safety monitoring






Indications used in LA County




  • Focused rollout




  • Trauma related hemorrhagic shock




  • Postpartum hemorrhage




Physiologic criteria:




  • SBP < 70




  • Or HR > 110 with SBP < 90




  • Shock index ≥ 1.2




  • Witnessed traumatic cardiac arrest




Products:




  • One unit whole blood preferred




  • Two units PRBCs if whole blood unavailable






Early experience




  • ~28 patients transfused at time of discussion




  • Evaluating:




    • Indications




    • Protocol adherence




    • Time to transfusion




    • Early outcomes






  • Too early for outcome conclusions






California collaboration




  • Multiple active programs:




    • Riverside (Corona Fire)




    • LA County




    • Ventura County






  • Additional programs planned:




    • Sacramento




    • San Bernardino






  • Programs meet monthly as CalDROP




  • Focus on shared learning and operational optimization






Barriers and concerns




  • Trauma surgeon concerns about blood supply




  • Need for system wide buy in




  • Community engagement




  • Patients who may decline transfusion




  • Women of childbearing age and alloimmunization risk




  • Risk of HDFN is extremely low




  • Clear communication with receiving hospitals is essential






Future direction




  • Rapid national expansion expected




  • Greatest benefit likely where transport delays exist




  • Prehospital Blood Transfusion Coalition active nationally




  • Major unresolved issue: reimbursement




  • Currently funded largely by fire departments




  • Sustainability depends on policy and payment reform






Take-Home Points




  • Hemorrhagic shock is best treated with blood, not crystalloid




  • Prehospital transfusion may benefit patients with prolonged transport times




  • Implementation requires strong partnerships with blood banks and trauma centers




  • Early data are promising, but patient selection remains critical




  • National collaboration is key to sustainability and future growth







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