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LEO Round Table with Chip DeBlock
S11E019, Yet Another Cop Gets Dragged By Bad Guy Ending In Fatal Shooting On Video
Chaos ensues in Minneapolis as politicians spout misinformation. Firefighters arrested as a result of prank war against sheriff's office. Yet another cop gets dragged by bad guy ending in fatal shooting on video.
LEO Round Table: Political Rhetoric, Use of Force, and New Tech
Podcast SummaryLEO Round Table • Jan 29, 2026
The "Not Real Police" Narrative & The Future of Non-Lethal Tech
Analyzing the dangerous fallout of anti-ICE rhetoric in Minneapolis, officer-involved shootings in Chicago, and the "Glove" technology solution.
Key Analysis: The Minneapolis Crisis
"You cannot say ICE isn't law enforcement without knowing it's gonna trigger people... It's the exact same playbook as 2020."
The "Playbook" Theory: Panelists argue that politicians (specifically Gov. Walz) dehumanize federal agents to incite chaos. This rhetoric has led to:
Attacks on ICE agents (viewed as "Nazis" by rioters).
Creation of "Law Enforcement Free Zones" (barricades).
Local police restricted from assisting federal partners.
INCIDENT REPORTS
Chicago, ILLethal Force
Officer dragged by stolen vehicle; shoots driver in back of head. Panel consensus: Justified due to imminent threat of death.
Jacksonville, FLMisconduct
Firefighters arrested for paintball "prank war" hitting a police cruiser. Panel view: "Childish" but criminal charges may be excessive.
TECH SPOTLIGHT
GAME CHANGER
"The Glove" (Compliant Technologies)
Electronic control device worn on the hand. Delivers a pulse that forces immediate compliance without relying on pain compliance or lethal force.
91%
Shootings start w/ Non-Compliance
~50%
Potential Reduction in Shootings
Public Perception Gap
Actual Unarmed Shootings (Yearly)12
Public Estimate (Liberal Polling)10,000+
PANELISTS
Chip DeBlockDr. Travis YatesScott Steiert
Topics:#LawEnforcement #ICE #UseOfForce #PoliceTech #Minneapolis
Introduction
This episode of LEO Round Table explores the dangerous consequences of political rhetoric targeting federal agents in Minneapolis, contrasting current events with the anti-police sentiments of 2020. The panel also analyzes a fatal officer-involved shooting in Chicago involving a vehicle, critiques the criminal charges brought against Jacksonville firefighters for a prank, and advocates for the adoption of new non-lethal "Glove" technology to reduce lethal force incidents.
Detailed Summary
The Destabilization of Law Enforcement in Minneapolis
The panel engaged in a critical discussion regarding the current unrest in Minneapolis, attributing the chaos to political leadership. Dr. Travis Yates argued that politicians, including Governor Tim Walz, are utilizing a "playbook" similar to 2020 by dehumanizing specific groups of law enforcement—in this case, claiming ICE agents are "not real law enforcement." This rhetoric creates a permission structure for violence, leading to incidents where federal agents are attacked, and the public is misled about the nature of federal authority.
The situation on the ground has escalated to dangerous levels. Reports indicate that local police have been held back from assisting federal agents during riots, leaving federal officers to defend themselves against violent crowds at hotels and barricaded intersections. The panel noted that this lack of local support forces federal agencies to rely on their own tactical teams, further alienating the agencies from the community. There is a consensus that this is a manufactured crisis designed to create instability for political gain.
📉 The "Dehumanization Playbook" Analysis
Step 1: RhetoricPoliticians claim agents (ICE/Police) are illegitimate or "not law enforcement."
Step 2: AgitationPublic is emboldened to confront agents, believing they have moral/legal cover.
Step 3: WithdrawalLocal support is pulled back, creating lawless zones and forcing federal escalation.
Operational Analysis: Chicago Shooting and Jacksonville Prank
The hosts reviewed body cam footage from Chicago where an officer was dragged by a stolen vehicle and subsequently shot the driver in the back of the head. The panel unanimously agreed the shooting was justified, noting the rapid evolution of the threat and the officer's immediate fear for his life while being dragged. They emphasized that compliance would have prevented the tragedy entirely.
In a lighter but controversial segment, the group discussed Jacksonville firefighters arrested for a paintball war that resulted in a police cruiser getting hit. The consensus was that while the behavior was immature and unprofessional, elevating it to criminal mischief was an overreaction. The panel suggested internal administrative discipline would have been more appropriate than criminal charges for what amounted to inter-agency horseplay.
The "Glove" Technology and Officer Safety
A significant portion of the discussion focused on a new non-lethal tool from Compliant Technologies: a glove capable of delivering an electrical stimulus. The hosts, having personally tested the device, described it as a "game changer" for policing. Unlike Tasers, which require barb connection and high voltage, the glove uses lower power to achieve immediate compliance through touch.
The panel argued that widespread adoption of this technology could drastically reduce officer-involved shootings. Since approximately 91% of shootings begin with non-compliance, a tool that safely and instantly ends resistance without lethal force protects both officers and suspects. The segment concluded with a strong endorsement for agencies to acquire this equipment to mitigate liability and save lives.
⚡ Tech Spotlight: The Compliance Glove
Core Function: Delivers electrical stimulus via touch (wrist/arm) to induce immediate compliance.
Safety Profile: Uses significantly less power than traditional ECWs (Tasers); no barb projectiles required.
Strategic Impact: Potential to resolve the 91% of use-of-force incidents that stem from non-compliance before they escalate to lethal force.
Key Data
91%: The percentage of officer-involved shootings that begin with non-compliance, which could potentially be mitigated by new non-lethal technology.
10,000 vs. 12: A cited study highlighted a public perception gap where liberal respondents believed 10,000 unarmed Black men were shot by police in a year, whereas the actual number was 12.
$1,700: The approximate value of a pair of the Compliant Technologies gloves.
To-Do / Next Steps
Listeners should visit thewoundedblue.org and look under the events section to participate in the "Glove Challenge" fundraiser.
Participants can make a donation in the name of Dr. Travis Yates or Chip DeBlock to enter for a chance to win a pair of gloves for their agency.
Agencies interested in firearm training seminars at no cost should visit gunlearn.com for hosting opportunities.
Conclusion
The episode underscores a critical disconnect between political narratives and the realities of street policing. While dangerous rhetoric continues to complicate the operating environment for officers in places like Minneapolis, the emergence of technologies like the "Glove" offers a tangible solution to reduce violence and liability, provided leadership is willing to adopt them.